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do you think the nra will support any gun control legislation? go to facebook.come/newsnation to cast that vote. thank you so m we'll see you tomorrow, friday. "the cycle" is up next.
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we have the nra the congress is awash in nra cash. you have the stooges in congress who are not concerned with the next generation. they're concerned with the next election. we have to speak to them from home from their districts and religion can do that. we're the most religious of the modern democracies the modern industrial democracies. 40% of americans worship every week. that's more than go to a football game in the entire season. >> john: when they say it is my god-given right to have a gun. where do they get that from? there's one line in luke where jesus says buys a sword and he's speaking metaphorically and he tells him not to use sword. where do people get this notion of a god-given right to guns? >> they don't get it from the religious traditions. they get it from various elements of political culture that simply have no place in our religious thinking. we're created in the image of god. all of our major traditions embrace that principle. nothing defiles the image of god as much as pointing a gun at a small child and pullin
we have the nra the congress is awash in nra cash. you have the stooges in congress who are not concerned with the next generation. they're concerned with the next election. we have to speak to them from home from their districts and religion can do that. we're the most religious of the modern democracies the modern industrial democracies. 40% of americans worship every week. that's more than go to a football game in the entire season. >> john: when they say it is my god-given right to...
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the nra -- we didn't elect them. you guys didn't sign a pledge to the nra. the republicans -- why are they signing a pledge to a person like grover norquist. i think you are absolutely right when you look at the polling and what the american people want that would be the important thing to realize is that the nra is not all howerful right? >> yeah, and i think the domination of the republican party, the moderates are extinct in that party, anybody that attempts to draw some consensus or compromise is not tolerated, and that extreme branch of the party who basically has been running the show i think their brand is worn-out and it's worn-out because now you have a cumulative effect of lack of policies, lack of oversight, lack of gun control, the threat of the -- we're not going to raise the debt ceiling unless you make all of these draconian cuts, congress unfortunately made the deal, and here we find ourselves at this cliff again. that's what is really at stake here? >> stephanie: but let's talk about that separately in a moment, but is that going to happen w
the nra -- we didn't elect them. you guys didn't sign a pledge to the nra. the republicans -- why are they signing a pledge to a person like grover norquist. i think you are absolutely right when you look at the polling and what the american people want that would be the important thing to realize is that the nra is not all howerful right? >> yeah, and i think the domination of the republican party, the moderates are extinct in that party, anybody that attempts to draw some consensus or...
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nra is supposed to have their press conference. tomorrow, we hear what they say. when the second amendment was writen, we were talking abpeople with muskets. but let me ask you, father flager, as the congressman elect said, it's hamming all over the country. but, here, in chicago, 465 deaths by gunfight. give people a sense. you have been marching, you have been religious, you've gone to jail. 465 death, including gunfire. 62 children. give us a sense of what goes on. >> when you have communities that suffer from high unemployment, no infrastructure, a shortage of afterschool programs, you create a perfect storm. and then you have communities that have more guns than computers. children live in fear. how do you study in school if you're afraid to go hoechl, you're afraid to come to school. people have been shot in their homes. children have been shot in this beds, porches and living rooms. our kids, the new landmarks of our neighborhoods are teddy bears and yellow police tape. this past june, not one high school graduation that i w
nra is supposed to have their press conference. tomorrow, we hear what they say. when the second amendment was writen, we were talking abpeople with muskets. but let me ask you, father flager, as the congressman elect said, it's hamming all over the country. but, here, in chicago, 465 deaths by gunfight. give people a sense. you have been marching, you have been religious, you've gone to jail. 465 death, including gunfire. 62 children. give us a sense of what goes on. >> when you have...
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see what the nra plan to do going forward. >> exactly. i'll be on the program, as well. thank you for the plug and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." my colleague tamron hall has a look at when's next. >> hi, andrea. plan "b" basically stands for be real. and house republicans get ready to bring boehner plan to the floor for a vote. senator reid says it's got no chance of passing the senate. what's the possible solution? >>> democratic congressman pass quell and congresswoman swartz will join us. tomorrow, the nra holds that big news conference we have been waiting for. will the organization announce support of gun control legislation? that's the gut check question of the day. the only underarm treatment for low t. that's right, the one you apply to the underarm. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18. axiron can transfer to others through direct contact. women, especially those who are or who may become pregnant, and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of pu
see what the nra plan to do going forward. >> exactly. i'll be on the program, as well. thank you for the plug and that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." my colleague tamron hall has a look at when's next. >> hi, andrea. plan "b" basically stands for be real. and house republicans get ready to bring boehner plan to the floor for a vote. senator reid says it's got no chance of passing the senate. what's the possible solution? >>>...
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erin, what do you think they mean by that, the nra. what do you think they will support? >> i think they know that something is going to be passed, and it will serve them best to be in this fight from the very beginning. not a fight really. i think they're serious. i think they know this is a problem, and it would just be best for them -- >> you mean they'll support some gun restrictions. >> i think they will absolutely. >> when have they done it before? >> i can't say but -- >> when have they done it before? they have never done it before. >> they never have but when they say they want to give some meaningful contributions they mean it. >> they'll talk about mental illness, possible checks on mental illness, the video culture of our society, they'll talk about everything but guns. your thought, ron, we have to get out of here but i don't have any confidence in the nra. you may be right. >> meaningful ccs, cosmetic contributions is what they're looking for. but erin is right, they're looking to get on board this thing so they can steer the train as it were. >> i think the
erin, what do you think they mean by that, the nra. what do you think they will support? >> i think they know that something is going to be passed, and it will serve them best to be in this fight from the very beginning. not a fight really. i think they're serious. i think they know this is a problem, and it would just be best for them -- >> you mean they'll support some gun restrictions. >> i think they will absolutely. >> when have they done it before? >> i can't...
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i think republicans have to be mindful that just because the nra says something, it doesn't mean it's going to be advantageous to you and sort of the demographic we're speaking to in specific here is mothers across america. women who are swing voters. what is the republican party doing if it wants to win those votes 2014, 2016 and beyond? >> i think it probably ends up doing sort of close to what the democratic party is going to do, which is if you look at the kinds of gun controls that people support, they're not really very effective at stopping these kinds of shootings, right? the assault weapons ban, we had columbine. we had michael corn he'll and a lot of school shootings after that ban because, in fact, most of what it did, except for the ban on extended magazines, which i think probably does cut down on the fatality of these shootings, mostly it sort of looks scary or -- you know, the thing that's dangerous about the gun is that it's a gun, and there's almost no kind of semiautomatic gun that you can define that's specially dangerous. >> you get the sense that republicans would
i think republicans have to be mindful that just because the nra says something, it doesn't mean it's going to be advantageous to you and sort of the demographic we're speaking to in specific here is mothers across america. women who are swing voters. what is the republican party doing if it wants to win those votes 2014, 2016 and beyond? >> i think it probably ends up doing sort of close to what the democratic party is going to do, which is if you look at the kinds of gun controls that...
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i want to pass along this programming note that the nra news conference will be held at 10:45 a.m. eastern time tomorrow and this note, too. "meet the press" has this exclusive interview with wayne lapierre this sunday, his first since the newtown shooting. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup can do. ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove [ male announcer ] zales is the diamond store. save 25 percent off an amazing selection storewide, now through monday. >>> hours from now the house will vote on speaker john boehner's plan b. and to pull that bill. >> the american people did not re-elect the conservative house of representatives to become tax collectors for barack obama's welfare state. >> we supported challengers who were opposed to t.a.r.p. we were opposed to the debt deal 2011 and this is the sort of vote that we'll look at closely when we look at our options in 2014. >
i want to pass along this programming note that the nra news conference will be held at 10:45 a.m. eastern time tomorrow and this note, too. "meet the press" has this exclusive interview with wayne lapierre this sunday, his first since the newtown shooting. [ whistle blowing ] where do you hear that beat? campbell's healthy request soup lets you hear it... in your heart. [ basketball bouncing ] heart healthy. great taste. mmm... [ male announcer ] sounds good. it's amazing what soup...
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what the nra never mentions is that that gun control legislation was supported by nra member and former president, ronald reagan. that is coming up. >>> this time, it really is ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaque with more brush movements than manual brushes and even up to 50% more than leading sonic technology brushes for a superior clean. oral-b power brushes. go to oralb.com for the latest offers. different. >> the fact that this problem is complexed can no longer be an excuse for doing nothing. the fact that we can't prevent every act of violence doesn't mean we can't steadily reduce the violence, and prevent the very worst violence. that is why i have asked the vice president to lead an effort that includes members of my cabinet, and outside organizations to come up with a set of concrete proposals no later than january. >> five days after the shooting massacre at sandy hook elementary schoo
what the nra never mentions is that that gun control legislation was supported by nra member and former president, ronald reagan. that is coming up. >>> this time, it really is ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaque with more brush movements than manual brushes and even up to 50% more than leading...
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you sit there in a meeting and some nra guys are at the meeting. they say you're on a slippery slope. next you'll be after your deer rifle, they say. it's not a slippery slope. what do you say? >> no one wants to take away your deer rifle, number one. every one of our amendments are qualified. and number three, if you guys are so tough how come you opposed me in three state campaigns and i got elected by 10 points, 12 points, and 21 points. if the nra is so tough, how did i win? >> because the suburbanites love you. you didn't change their minds you beat them. >> in my first election i won 15 out of 67 counties. in my second i won 33 out of 67 counties. >> yeah. >> so they're not that tough. they are literally a paper tiger. they're the wizard of oz. >> that's because you're running against my brother and len swann. i'm just teasing. i'm teasing my brother there. did you find yourself successful as a guy who's known to be for gun control in areas of the state that are very tough on that? did you change any minds? did you manage to win minds over on
you sit there in a meeting and some nra guys are at the meeting. they say you're on a slippery slope. next you'll be after your deer rifle, they say. it's not a slippery slope. what do you say? >> no one wants to take away your deer rifle, number one. every one of our amendments are qualified. and number three, if you guys are so tough how come you opposed me in three state campaigns and i got elected by 10 points, 12 points, and 21 points. if the nra is so tough, how did i win? >>...
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i took nra sharpshooter lessons. i have a merit badge. >> that's great. >> and it used to be like the aaa. helpful with safety and insurance. how did it change? two ways. one in the 1980s, there was a big fight within the nra and more militant people took over. and they started stoking the paranoia. but because crime was so high in areas like mine, lots of progressives said, hey, let's ban handguns. let's get raid of all guns, and that fed on the paranoia. so we should come back and say we're not going to take away your gun if you are a law-abiding citizen. the second amendment is as important as the first but no amendment is absolute like the nra's position is today. >> there are so many cross cultural rifts in this issue. the way to get everybody talking is to get everything on the table. when reagan signed the cooling off period as governor is that the black panthers actually marched on sacramento armed with their guns because they proper testing it. so there's a lot of -- there's a lot of nuances to this issue. t
i took nra sharpshooter lessons. i have a merit badge. >> that's great. >> and it used to be like the aaa. helpful with safety and insurance. how did it change? two ways. one in the 1980s, there was a big fight within the nra and more militant people took over. and they started stoking the paranoia. but because crime was so high in areas like mine, lots of progressives said, hey, let's ban handguns. let's get raid of all guns, and that fed on the paranoia. so we should come back and...
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the nra says they will do a press conference in pretty short order. they are going to start to address some of these issues. you're right to point out since the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004, the reason it hasn't been reinstituted is because not just because of republican opposition to it but because of a lot of democrats as well. now that is changing, especially after this connecticut tragedy. a lot of people who resisted this kind of thing in the past now are saying we have to take another look at this. so the political dynamics may be changing, mart. martha: it seems, apparent, doug, you have to two things. you have to make it a little more difficult for people in this young man's condition wherer clearly should not have had any access to any of these kinds of weapons so he can't get his hands on them. but also people like his mother who is very controversial character in all of this but we know that she was in a very difficult situation. she had a son on her hands she said she was losing control of and she was concerned about. so y
the nra says they will do a press conference in pretty short order. they are going to start to address some of these issues. you're right to point out since the expiration of the assault weapons ban in 2004, the reason it hasn't been reinstituted is because not just because of republican opposition to it but because of a lot of democrats as well. now that is changing, especially after this connecticut tragedy. a lot of people who resisted this kind of thing in the past now are saying we have to...
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the nra has four million members. you know, the campaigns like mayors against illegal guns and others, within a few weeks they are going to have four million members. this is just not going to be tolerated in the same way anymore. and senators like scott brown may end up being kind of the first test on this. he made that crafty statement because he opposed a federal bill in the past. >> you mean the state should have the responsibility. >> right. but he knew as a senator that it was never going to pass. he was the number one recipient of nra money in his campaign over this last year. a lot of senators are going to find themselves in the cross hairs because of taking all of that money and when he comes back to -- tries to come back to the senate, that may very well be a big issue. >> like joe manchin, the senator from west virginia, he's apparently ready to take some steps. the three steps the president laid out yesterday, i think he wants to do an assault weapons ban, for example, high capacity ammunition clips and ti
the nra has four million members. you know, the campaigns like mayors against illegal guns and others, within a few weeks they are going to have four million members. this is just not going to be tolerated in the same way anymore. and senators like scott brown may end up being kind of the first test on this. he made that crafty statement because he opposed a federal bill in the past. >> you mean the state should have the responsibility. >> right. but he knew as a senator that it was...